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Another Conversation With Barry February 3, 2013

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[Following is a portion of a recent email I sent Barry McGuire, and
portions of his reply. My few interactions with him have been
extremely rewarding.]


Hi There.
I was part of the “Jesus People” crowd back in the 70’s and 80’s.
Over the last 5 to 10 years, I’ve become a very different person, spiritually.
My wife and I left “institutional religion” about 5 years ago. I was a co-Pastor, Elder, Worship leader, Sunday school teacher, ect., ect.
Now, when I look back, I can see, IMHO, how the Jesus movement seemed to eventually be co-opted by conservative, right-wing, Republican “christianity.”  I’ve also noticed, as I never did then, that the “Christian” music industry, book industry, ect., also is pretty much controlled by the religious right. (I didn’t believe that the Christian left even existed.)

Anyway,now when I listen to some of the old songs by certain artists like yourself, I hear a more radical tone than I ever noticed back then.
I hear implications that we’re all connected. I hear concern for our planet, and actual love and relationship with those of other religions. All things I have come to believe in.

I’m at a very different place spiritually than I ever would have imagined even a decade ago.    It’s a different place, but it’s the best and most honest place I’ve been in that regard.

Question:

Have you had any major shift in your spirituality since the Jesus People days?  Were you just always more “left” (if I can use that term) than most of us realized?

Anyway, thanks for all the years of great entertaining and thought-provoking music.
Keep it up!

Mega Blessings,
David Foreman

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Hi David,

Well, good for you my friend. I recently received an email asking me if I was still walking WITH Jesus and I had to tell the enquirer, that “No, I no longer walked WITH Christ, I now actually walk IN Christ.” All the difference in the world.


I can tell by your email that you are sinking deep unto deep. Recently a pastor in So Cal expressed that he’d heard that I’d gone off the deep end. My response was, “Praise God, yes, I’m tired of the wading pool. It’s deep unto deep for me.”

Someone asked my wife recently what church we went to. Her response was, “You’ve asked the wrong question…
She told that person, “We are the church, you and I are the living stones in the Body of Christ.” She went onto say that we belong to the church of Two or More. Wherever two or more are gathered in His name, there He is in our midst.


We could spend hours talking, at least I know I could. It’s been a long journey, but for me I’ve discovered that fundamental Christianity just doesn’t work. I’ve written a few blogs you might want to read on my personal www.barrymcguire.com website although it’s been a long time since I’ve read them myself, and I know my outlook on reality has changed since then. What we believe to be true today, with additional information, will change what we believe to be true tomorrow.


Just sink into your heart my friend, all the answers live there and ultimately it’s Christ WITHIN us that will prevail.


Blessings on you my friend, get stubborn in your surrender to reality,
Barry

[Bold and underscores added my me. – df]

www.barrymcguire.com
www.trippinthesixties.com

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Some other quotes from Mr. McGuire:


We have never known such peace, such assurance, we have never been filled with such expectancy, such hope, such knowing, that Christ IS living WITHIN every heart.

My world view changes from day to day. The truth of it is, we can know 99% about all there is to know, but the 1% we don’t know will totally change our understanding of the 99% that we did know……”His mercies are new every morning as our Spirit is renewed daily.” I’m not the same person today that I was yesterday, and I’ll not be the same person tomorrow that I am today.

Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we’re here we should dance.

Ghandi had the right idea. He was assassinated. Anwar Sadat was a man of peace. He was assassinated. Martin Luther King spoke of the brotherhood of man. He was assassinated. John Kennedy wanted to get us out of Vietnam. He was assassinated. Jesus Christ gave us a message of forgiveness and love. He was assassinated. Socrates apparently did all he could to get people to think for themselves and not let others tell them what to do. He was assassinated. That’s why I take an a-political stand in this world I find myself living in.

How dare I judge ANYONE that Christ gave His life to forgive! I don’t care if they’re gay [or] straight.

Well, I don’t know about Christ’s soon physical returning.  People have been thinking He’s going to be coming back any minute for the last two thousand years.  For me, and Mari, He’s already come back!
Our constant goal is to stay focused on this present moment, and to pour one hundred percent of our energy and attention into the demands and requirements of each moment we experience.

barry mcguire dot com

 

Open My Eyes, Lord August 19, 2010




Listening to some classic Barry McGuire today:
– ♫ ♪ Won’t you open up your heart my friend and welcome in the Father’s Son ♫ ♪ –
Somehow, the tune in my head transitioned into “Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown.”
I realized, I could totally hear Barry singing that. 🙂



Also, it seems odd now, that I can see so clearly the social justice ideologies in some of
the songs that Barry, and others then, sang that I looked right over before. (e.g. “Don’t Blame God”)
Our so-called “worldview” can actually blind us.
At least, mine did.
Man, our eyes need to constantly open anew.
That just doesn’t happen when you think you already have all the answers.


         AND NOW…
For the first time in over 35 years!
BARRY McGUIRE, and A BAND CALLED DAVID,
                    TOGETHER AGAIN!
Check out “The Final Tour – Don’t Blame God”  CLICK HERE.


AND, in case you’ve missed it, here is
         EVE 2012

“McGuire continues to promote the awareness of social and environmental justice.”

 

Eve Of Destruction 2012 July 5, 2010



So many Christians are still so totally focused on “over there,” they ignore what God
calls us to take care of “here and now.”
We need to take care of the earth God has given us, and of each other.
Thanks again, Barry, for helping to restore our focus.
— df

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“McGuire continues to promote the awareness of social and environmental justice.”
—  The Urchins

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Barry says:
“Give it a look and a listen.  You might have to watch it two or three times.
It’s one of the heaviest things I’ve ever done.  Please feel free to forward it to
anyone that you think might benefit from viewing it.”

Watch the video HERE.
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BUY IT HERE.



Here are the Lyrics:

Well the Western World is in danger
We the People have become like strangers
Taking polls and opinions while the fabric decays
For the greed of the few how much the innocent pays
And the children are watching, you can hear how they pray

And you tell me over and over and over again my friend
How you don’t believe we’re still on the eve of destruction

Think of this green Earth, a tropical rainforest
And take a look around to the Sahara Desert
We wanna cut it down, burn it to the ground leave barren and waste
Till there’s no room for living, animals, rivers or lakes
And there’s nothing to stop it but a miracle of faith

And you tell me over and over and over again my friend
said you don’t believe we’re still on the eve of destruction
now you don’t believe we’re still on the eve of destruction

I know you understand what we’re trying to say
Can’t you see the madness that’s lead up to today?
We believe its time for a change, for a new golden age
Where the business of life runs in harmony with nature
For nature reflects the beauty within ourselves
And this changin’ attitude would ring out the Liberty Bells
For the hungry and the homeless and the helpless as well

And you tell me over and over and over again my friend
saying you don’t believe we’re still on the eve of destruction
oh you don’t believe we’re still on the eve of destruction

At the source of silence, we’ll sings songs of creation
Transcending the boundaries of our soul’s imagination
You can’t twist the truth, it knows no regulation
Cuz the truth is in Love, Freedom and Cooperation
Let there be peace in your heart, that’s all right, that’s where it starts
Let there be peace tonight, in all the Nations
For the music of life is in (our last deliberation?)

And you tell me over and over and over again my friend
saying you don’t believe we’re still on the eve of destruction
no, no, no you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destruction

Watch the video HERE.
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BUY IT HERE.

 

Barry McGuire Email May 29, 2009

Here’s an email I got from Barry McGuire back when we started our involvement with Aids Walk 2009.
It was very encouraging.
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Hi David,

We have a mentally ill son who requires all of our attention and our donations, but we certainly know your heart on the aids walk. Sorry we can’t help financially, but we are in total agreement with you.

Flack…..you may get it! We’ve always caught a lot of flack. ….

It just seems to us, since Christ died to forgive ALL – that to us would mean, every person now living, who has ever lived, or will ever be born in the future, has been forgiven. The tragedy is so few of them know it. And how will they ever know it if they only see judgement in our eyes and hear condemnation from our lips. It’s not even up to us to judge or condemn, God our Father is the judge, Christ did the forgiving and is all we have to do is LOVE people. How simple is that! – Even the flack throwers have a hard time targeting that….

How dare I judge ANYONE that Christ gave His life to forgive! I don’t care if they’re gay [or] straight…
We don’t hear that being preached much these days do we!


Blessings on you my friend,
Barry & Mari

 

 
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