Heroes And Monsters
- Josh James Riebock
Yet another book recommended to me by my daughter-in-law.
This is a memoir like no memoir I’ve ever read. It is, as the author states, “A true story… except for the parts that aren’t.” That’s because like “Walter Mitty,” “Ally McBeal,” and “The Life of PI” the author expresses many of life’s realities through fanciful renderings. The result is a sad, funny, tragic, triumphant journey of life in the real world.
The writing exposes how we all have the potential for both good and bad. We are simultaneously “heroes and monsters, both arsonists and architects at the corner of the damned and the divine”.
It’s also about relationships: With God, with others, and with ourselves.
(Some of the material came at a very good time for what life is throwing at my wife and I right now.)
This book is published by a “Christian” publishing house, but expresses the author’s spiritual journey in a way that I find somewhat universal. It’s a very engaging and encouraging read without being “heavy-handed.”
If you like memoirs, I think you’ll really, really enjoy “Heroes and Monsters.” If you’ve not been into memoirs in the past, this one is a great piece with which to start.
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“A beautiful book…Josh tells his life story with lively prose that explores the paradox of human splendor and wretchedness while dangling hints of redemption…For Josh, the road traveled with God is twisting, bumpy, potholed…and well worth the ride.”
A Few Quotes:
- We hold each other. Sometimes, that’s all we can do.
- For a human, discovering that their perceived reality is inaccurate sends a tremor through their soul.
- A dream is a piano without keys. Fear calls everyone a friend. But dreamers, well, fear cozies up to them the most.
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- Yes, I knew that life could be cruel to people, but I never knew it could be this cruel to me.
- Flawed people I don’t mind; it’s the perfect ones who scare me.
- For the first time in my life, my dad isn’t a hero or a monster to me. Just a man trying to find his way.
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- A friend isn’t someone who lets us be ourselves. A friend is someone who will die to keep us from becoming anyone else.
- Here in eternity, death has been exposed as the greatest hoax in history.
- All good things must come to a beginning.
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Heroes And Monsters. January 12, 2014
Tags: alcoholism, Christian spirituality, conversation, Faith, God, Heroes And Monsters, Josh James Riebock, life, love, memoir, memoirs, peace, Relating to God, Relationship, relationships, Riebock, spirituality, tragedy, triumph
Recommended Reading November 24, 2013
Tags: A New Kind Of Christianity, A Time To Embrace, Al Franken, Andrew Farley, Anne Lamote, Bert Gary, Bible, Blue Like Jazz, books, Brian McLaren, Christian, Christian Fiction, Christian Life, Christian spirituality, Christianity, Church, cisgender, conversation, culture, Darin Hufford, Death, Divine Nobodies, Does Jesus Really Love Me, Donald Miller, Emergent, entertainment, eternity, evangelical, Evolving In Monkey Town, Faith, Fall To Grace, freedom, Gay, genderfluid, genderqueer, GLBT, God, Grace, Grace Eventually, green, Greg Albrecht, Gregory A. Boyd, Gulley/Mulholland, He Loves Me, Health, Heaven & Hell, Hell, Holy Terror, Homosexual, Homosexuality, Humor, Hypocrisy, If Grace Is True, Insurrection, Jay Bakker, Jesus Unplugged, Jesus Wants To Save Christians, Jim Palmer, kingdom of God, law, LBGTQ, legalism, LGBT, Lies and the lying liars who tell them, life, love, Love Wins, Loving God, Mel White, Patrick M. Chapman, peace, Peter Rollins, Politics, Quote, Quotes, Rachel Held Evans, Rejecting Religion Embracing Grace, Relating to God, Religion, religious bondage, Rob Bell, Salvation, science, Scripture, sex, Sexuality, social issues, Spencer Burke, The Bible, the end times, The Misunderstood God, The Myth of a Christian Nation, The Naked Gospel, The Shack, Theology, Thou Shalt Not Love, Tithing, Truth, Velvet Elvis, Wayne Jacobsen, William Stacy Johnson, Wm. Paul Young
Every so often, I update and re-post this list for my new readers. So…
These are just some of the books that have helped me SO much on my journey.
They have challenged me in ways I could have never imagined!
I believe they can truly help change the way we live.
(CLICK ON ANY BOOK image for a few quotes, or a brief review.)
Velvet Elvis He Loves Me The Shack
If Grace Is True Blue Like Jazz
Holy Terror Insurrection Fall To Grace
The Misunderstood God Evolving In Monkey Town
There are so many more; Like Bert Gary’s “Jesus Unplugged,” and Jim Palmer’s “Divine Nobodies.”
There’s “The Orthodox Heretic,” by Peter Rollins, and “Crazy For God,” by Frank Schaeffer
Happy reading. Have a good life.
Oh. Recently, I was contacted by publishing house HarperColins. They asked me if I would read and review a new book they were getting ready to release. I wasn’t sure at first if it was a “legit” email. Turns out, it was. I was very honored.
The book is “Does Jesus Really Love Me?
A Gay Christian’s Pilgrimage in Search of God in America,”
by Jeff Chu
What? You’re still here?!?!?
OK then, here’s a list of some MORE books:
Finding Faith: A Search For What Makes Sense September 26, 2013
Tags: 3. Christian Life, 6. Politics, A search for what makes sense, Atheist, belief, Bible, Brian McLaren, Buddhist, Christian, Christian spirituality, Christianity, Church, conversation, doubt, eternity, Faith, Finding Faith, God, Grace, Hell, Jesus, Jew, kingdom of God, legalism, life, logic, Loving God, monotheism, multi-faith, multifaith culture, Muslim, panentheism, pantheism, peace, polytheism, reason, Relating to God, Religion, Scripture, The Bible, Theology, Truth
“Many people crave certainty.
They want dogma.
They want guaranteed answers.
This book is not for them.”
- Steve Chalke
This book may not be for “them,” but it is for pretty much everyone else. So many people think they must abandon intellectual integrity in order to exercise faith. Mr. McLaren shows, once again, that the two are not mutually exclusive. In fact, good faith will make sense.
Brian, as a Christian, has a definite point of view, but he doesn’t discount other views, or disrespect those who differ. He offers insights on various avenues of thought, and the logical conclusions (as he understands them) to which those avenues will lead.
Here is a book that is intentionally made so as not to be a cover-to-cover reading experience. Brian sets up each chapter by giving a brief description of the material, and then telling us who would benefit from reading that particular chapter. Very different.
Some of the questions addressed are, “Does it really matter what I believe?” “Can I believe in Atheism?” “Why are there so many religions?” “Aren’t all religions equally true?” “What is the relationship between faith and knowledge?” and, one of my favorites, “Don’t all paths lead to the same God?”
Early on we look at the strong difference between good faith and bad faith. Here, McLaren states “I would rather have a wrong faith that is good than a right faith that is bad.” So, yes, we are discussing again the importance of how you believe vs. what you believe.
In Chapter 3 (my second favorite in the book) there is an absolutely wonderful chart of “The Four Stages of Doubt.” These can simultaneously be refereed to as “The Four Stages of Faith.” Sadly, people often get stuck in an early stage, and never move forward. The refusal to move forward gives rise to dangerous fundamentalism. This includes not only Christian fundamentalism, but also that of Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Atheists, et al. (Brian gives reasons to consider that believing there is no God is, itself, a “faith” position.)
Chapter six looks at polytheism, pantheism, dualism, good monotheism, bad monotheism, and (briefly) panentheism. We also examine the role of creation in revealing God, and how that relates to an “art gallery” experience.
In the seventh chapter, Brian “addresses a number of common objections or frustrations that people have with monotheism, regarding God’s personality, gender, subtlety, and the like.” Is God personal or impersonal? Relational or non-relational? Male or female (Beyond semantics / Maternal imagery)? There’s a nice bit that addresses the fallacy of a question like “Don’t you think the Creator of the Universe has bigger fish to fry than answering the prayers of children and old women?”
Chapter 8 (my personal favorite) is “Don’t All Paths Lead to the Same God?” I would actually suggest beginning with this chapter. Brian has clearly (as have I) made belief in Christ his faith-choice. But he does so, as I hope I also do, with true respect for those of other faith traditions.
No religion owns God or has a corner on the “truth market.” There is a simple, yet great graphic in this chapter that addresses the subject of truth.
We’ve all heard it said “It doesn’t really matter what you believe.”
The thing is, what we believe can have world-altering consequences. What we believe does matter.
If you believe your God tells you it’s OK to fly planes into towers full of people, that matters. If you believe your God tells you it’s OK to own people because of their skin color (or any other reason), that matters. If you believe your God tells you it’s OK to withhold rights from a group of people because they don’t love who you think they should love, that matters. If, on a positive note, you believe your God tells you to love and care for others, be respectful, and take care of the planet, well, that also matters.
We’re told that , concerning the beliefs we consider, “We need open windows, but good screens.”
We’re given 4 guiding principles, and four screening principles. These 8 principles are more than worth the book price. This chapter should be required reading for… well, for everyone. Really, the simple approach of this section, taken seriously, would go a l-o-n-g way in creating a more peaceful world.
There are, I think, some statements and sections that could initially appear as somewhat arrogant. But if you give Brian the benefit of the doubt in those moments, there’s a clear overall picture of a man who holds his beliefs and strong convictions with sincere humility. It’s like Rob Bell said, ”You can hold something with so much conviction that you’d die for that belief, and yet, in the exact same moment say, ‘I could be wrong.’”
So, click one of the links, buy the book, pick a chapter, and dig in.
This book really is a buffet. You can nibble, fully dine, or pig-out.
Be sure to allow time to digest, and get the full benefit of the nutrients.
Of course, you can always go back for more.
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[NOTE: This is one of a pair of books. The second (which I've not yet read) is "Finding Faith: The Search For What Is Real."]
* We are on a level playing field; none of us lives with absolute, unassailable certainty about anything; we all live by faith.
* The finding of faith and the growing of faith… ironically can feel like losing faith.
* [We see] Jesus’ consistent refusal to do things that would force people into believing in him. Instead, he always allowed room for doubt and presented people with the opportunity to explore their questions.
* If you are born in India, you are probably going to “know” Hinduism is the true religion; if in America or Guatemala, it will probably be Christianity; if in an intellectual family in France, agnosticism or atheism; if in Iran, Islam; if in Israel, Judaism. There are exceptions, but it appears clear that the majority of people choose their beliefs based on social acceptance, peer pressure, and other factors rather than on a sober independent investigation of the objective evidence.
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* If a professed belief is not sufficient to promote action, then it would better be called an opinion or an idea or concept.
* As someone who deeply respects the Bible, I think we do it a disservice by implying that it can do something that no book can do.
* Isn’t conceit – the sense of certainty that I am already so right and superior that I don’t need to learn or listen – the greatest possible barrier to faith?
* There are strong reasons for making a faith commitment to the atheist position.
* Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear. [Thomas Jefferson]
* Monotheism has apparent downsides too… crusades, holy wars, jihads, division, controversy, bigotry, confusion, contradiction, overwhelming complexity.
* We aren’t proving anything here; we are simply suggesting that if human beings have a seemingly incurable, innate, cor hunger and thirst for spiritual meaning, that that is at least evidence – though certainly not proof – that there may be a reality corresponding to the desire.
* It is wise not the close the door too fast on theism.
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For a better understanding of the chart, and an overall great read,
buy “Finding Faith: A Search for What Makes Sense.” Click HERE.
The Square Root of God July 20, 2013
Tags: art, Christian, Christian spirituality, Christianity, circle, conversation, Emergent, eternity, Faith, Jesus, John, kingdom of God, life, love, Loving God, mathematical equations, Mathematical Metaphors and Spiritual Tangents, mathematics, Music, mystery, One, pantheism vs. panentheism, parables, peace, philosophy, quantum physics, Relating to God, Religion, sacred wisdom, Salvation, Scripture, space, square root, The Bible, the Gospel of John, the Gospel of Thomas, the speed of light, The Square Root of God, the Torah, Theology, Thomas, time, Truth
…And now for something completely different.
The Square Root of God: Mathematical Metaphors and Spiritual Tangents
- Timothy Carson
OK. Not completely different. (There’s nothing new under the sun.) I certainly found some similarities here with works like Bell’s “What We Talk About When We Talk About God,” Rollins’ “The Idolatry of God,” and a few whispers of Dowd’s “Thank God For Evolution.” Still, I’ve never read anything quite like this.
While these pages are assuredly from the perspective of a “Jesus person,” I believe most of what’s written here would be of interest to those of other faith traditions, as well. We look at “God’s universal presence in all time and space,” against which backdrop “Jesus emerged.”
Mr. Carson starts by telling us that “Thinkers from every world civilization throughout history have somehow connected mystical spirituality and mathematics.”
Hmmm. I did not know that, but reading of the connections is just amazing.
We look at intersubjectivity and objective reality, and that “what we observe is filtered in unusual ways by the worldview we already hold.” We begin to see “the limits of any human endeavor to interpret the hidden nature of reality.”
Timothy takes us on a journey through quantum physics, religion, philosophy, music, art, time, space, pantheism vs. panentheism, and mathematical equations as they relate to and reveal that which we call “God.”
In the chapter titled “Number 1″ we read from the Old Testament books of Deuteronomy, Genesis, and Exodus. Here we find that “The essential metaphysical pronouncement is that there is but one ultimate and seamless reality and it’s source. There is one… irreducible, undivided unity… a singularity that is the simplicity within every complexity.” ”Even chaos has a hidden symmetry.”
It is from here we examine the Christian doctrine of the Trinity. We are led beyond both Unitarianism and Trinitarianism (I’ve been in those battles. They’re not usually pretty!) to a mathematical metaphor that suggests that God can never be the product of addition. As it is expounded upon, our author’s proposal would seem to satisfy Unitarians, at the same time retaining a sense of Son and Spirit in a way that would be palatable to many Trinitarians. We delve deeper into the ways that “mathematics and theology inform one another.”
There are also discussions about Thomas Jefferson, Plato, prime numbers, Shema, the Nicene Creed, healing, prayer, spiritual centering, the medical arts, and genetics.
In “Circle Up,” we examine (you guessed it) the circle. We’re reminded that every point on the circumference of a circle, although in different relationships to each other, are equal peers due to their identical relationship to the center. ”Circles are built into the structure of the universe in countless ways. Circles are everywhere.” ”From planets to stars, galaxies to atoms, matter and it’s energy are oriented to and shaped by the centers that hold them.”
Some of the ramifications and spiritual applications may come immediately to your mind. Others may surprise you. The story of “The Prodigal Son,” metaphysical harmony, variation of relationship intensity, grace, Jews, Christians, Islam, Buddhism, the arrogance of exclusivism, and rainbows all add to this mind-expanding section. We see how the “exclusivist, universalist, inclusivist and tolerance models” are all “found wanting. What is needed is something else, something more.”
Next up is “A Piece of Pi.” This chapter follows, of course, the discussion of the circle. Here, Pi becomes a metaphor of Christ, each being a “key” to unlock, although not fully disclose, a mystery. We look at “the anomaly in the web of time and space” that is the emergence of Jesus within history, and the related failings of classical theism.
We also survey the speed of light, sacred wisdom, parables, the Torah, the Gospel of John, and the two greatest commandments. And, as some other books have done, we look at the total insanity (my words) of traditional penal substitution.
“Shape Beneath the Shape” focuses on geometry. We inspect the “interplay of lines, circles, squares, triangles and multiple combinations thereof.” We consider the “primary distinction between Newtonian and Quantum physics.” Through the work of Picasso, we see that “the underlying truth of a thing disrupts how we are accustomed to seeing it.” This principle has been a repeat offender in my continuing escape from religious fundamentalism.
There’s a good piece on the double entendres in the Gospel of John. Plus, we see how the term “saved” has been grossly misunderstood as we talk about the nature of salvation. Here’s a good quote from this chapter: “Faced with a choice between the God of classical theism or no God, people are choosing the latter, no God. Fortunately, another pathway is available.”
Also included: Jacques Maritain, Freud, Jung, the Samaritan woman, Kabbalah, the Tree of Life, Process Theology, M.C. Escher, J.S. Bach, “The Matrix” (OK. Who hasn’t used that one?!?!?), the Gospel of Thomas, Galileo, and “Inception.”
“Quest for Infinity” starts us off by looking at “the medieval riddle of angels on the head of a pin.” When I hear talk of medieval riddles, my mind instantly goes to “Monty Python and the Holy Grail.”
“What…is the capital of Assyria?”
Pure comic genius. I digress.
In this chapter we’re taken back to the 1800s and early 1900s as we learn that the concept of infinity “was not in favor among the children of the Enlightenment.” Some mathematicians actually became mentally unstable as they tried to solve the mysteries of set theory without the “key” of infinity. We look at the concept of “naming,” which “held infinite new possibilities for breakthroughs, a joint venture of religious consciousness and mathematical insight.” The big bang, the book of Job, and the Revelation of John of Patmos are also considered as we regard “an incomprehensibly distant past [and an] indefinite future.”
In the Conclusion, we are not only given said conclusion, but a summary of sorts. We close with the “simple but profound truth” that we’ve been elaborating on all along.
Yes, I very much enjoyed this book. When I was first approached about reviewing this work, I found the title intriguing. However, the first thing I do concerning an author with whom I’m unfamiliar is check out the bio. When I saw he was a pastor at a place called “Broadway Christian Church,” I… well… didn’t have high hopes for the material.
Yeah. Snap judgement.
It just sounded too fundie. But, like not judging a book by it’s cover, you can’t necessarily judge the book by the name of the institution the author attends. :-)
As I implied at the beginning, there were times when I felt the book may be too Christcentric for those who do not consider themselves “Jesus people.” Taken alone, some statements might even seem to convey the very religious arrogance that the author actually stands against. But, taken in it’s entirety this book should be of benefit to anyone seriously investigating the Divine Reality that many of us refer to as “God.”
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* As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shoreline of mystery.
* Every human system is approximate at best.
* God is in everything and everything is in God.
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* Concentric spiritual pathways circumnavigate the same center even as they perceive the other in separate space.
* There is always a God beyond our concept of God.
* The figure of Christ is taken to be a normative paradigm of what humanity can be, but at the same time a paradigm of what God is.
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* The navigator of the sacred realm discovers a God already there, immanent, yet not fully disclosed or revealed.
* Biblical language, like the language of other sacred scriptures, is destroyed by those who rush to literalize it.
* The images of God that once carried the sacred freight [have] ceased to work and [have become] impediments to faith.
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* “Where is God?”
* Unity and diversity, singularity and multiplicity are included in a seamless divine field.
* The square root of God = … (Buy the book. Click HERE).
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- – - Dr. Timothy Carson is a pastor and writer who lives in Columbia, Missouri. The author of four previous books, Tim builds bridges of understanding between historic forms of faith and contemporary thought.
When he is not writing about culturally relevant spirituality he is reading, taking in the arts, playing with raptors, traveling and otherwise contemplating the mysteries of the universe. – - -
SIN July 4, 2013
Tags: Bible, Christian, Christian Life, Christian spirituality, Christianity, Church, Church History, conversation, crossed, doubt, equal rights, equality, Faith, Gay, gay marriage, God, Grace, history, Homosexual, Homosexuality, Jay Bakker, Jesus, law, lines, love, Loving God, marriage, marriage equality, Politics, Religion, same sex marriage, Scripture, sex, sin, The Bible, Truth, unknown God, William Stacy Johnson
[From "Faith, Doubt and Other Lines I've Crossed," by Jay Bakker with Andy Meisenheimer]
When people lose their jobs, aren’t promoted, are discriminated against, are treated differently, are described as “gay” as an insult, get kicked out of their churches, and are disowned by their families THAT is Sin!
The non-affirming of our LGBTQ brothers and sisters in the church is destroying families – at times with surprising violence – all in the name of God and holiness.
That is Sin!
Jesus said we would be known by our love, but when it comes to the LGBTQ community, we are known by our uncomfortable silence, our fight against their civil right to marry, our moral outrage, our discrimination, and our stereotyping. A “welcoming-but-not-affirming policy is both self-contradictory and cruel.
The very notion of a “right” is that it places limits on the arbitrary power of the majority. Equal rights shouldn’t be based on a vote. (via William Stacy Johnson)
The church historically has lagged behind government when it comes to issues of civil liberties.
The church should be on the front lines of the fight for the civil liberties of the oppressed.
The lyrics of the U2 song “Sunday Bloody Sunday” ask, “How long must we sing this song?” How long are we going to cling to outdated notions of homosexuality and refuse to accept LGBTQ people into our midst?
Jay’s new book is, so far, fantastic! I’m just in 7 of 12 chapters (14, if you count the introduction and conclusion).
The above post is mostly about marriage equality, but that’s just this chapter. A lot of other issues are covered in these pages. This is my latest “Must Read” that I will be highly recommending to any and every reader, especially those who acknowledge faith in Christ.
[Of course, the "church" has often been the entity which has perpetrated the most vile and unholy sin, all in the name of God, and all while deceiving itself into believing it was the force attempting to eliminate sin.
To be fair, it has also been those of the Church (albeit the non-"fundamentalist" portion) who have fought for, and died for, the dignity, rights, and humanity of the oppressed. Who have, in fact, fought the sin of religious control and intolerance. - df]
For a different topic from the book, see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvcr11lancq3see/Paul.docx
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The Sacredness Of Questioning Everything May 30, 2013
Tags: African, Antichrist Television Blues, Bono, Book, books, Buddhist, C. S. Lewis, Chico Marx, Christian, Christian Life, Christian spirituality, Christianity, Church, Confucian, conversation, David Dark, eschatology, eternity, evangelical, excommunication, Faith, freedom, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Ghandhi, God, gospel, Gospels, Grace, Hell, hellfire, Islamic, Jana Riess, Jesus, Jesus Christ, kingdom of God, Leonard Cohen, life, love, Loving God, Michael Scott, MLK, Native American, No Country for Old Men, Nobodaddy, Questioning God, Quotes, Relating to God, Religion, religious bondage, REM, Revelation, Revelations, Salvation, Scripture, Shakespeare, South Park, Stephen Colbert, The Bible, The Sacredness of Questioning Everything, Theology, Thomas Aquinas, Tolstoy, Truth, U2, Uncle Ben, violence, Ziggy Marley
The Sacredness of Questioning Everything
- David Dark
”This book is for everyone who quietly suspects that God is
a whole lot bigger than the church would have us believe.”
- Jana Riess
This is a powerful read. Just powerful.
I’m often challenged. I’m often stretched. This book did both, but it did something else as well. It “convicted” me. I don’t much care for that word in the religious sense, but I can’t think of a better way to put it. It made me more deeply consider the ramifications of some of my actions and attitudes. That’s pretty much always a good thing.
So, yes, this is a book about questions. It’s a book of questions. Mostly, it’s a book about the very act of questioning. We know that, according to the New Testament Gospels, Jesus very frequently answered a question with a question. He could have always given simple, straight-forward answers, but he knew that “words in tablets of stone” (the preferred method of Pharisees) was not the way to go. He knew the question itself, was sacred.
David Dark takes us on a wonderful journey as we sacredly question things that many would consider unquestionable.
In chapter one, we dive right into the thick of it with “Questioning God.”
We start with a fictional story of “a tiny town with a tight-knit community,” as we’re introduced to a patriarch, of sorts, named “Uncle Ben.” Everyone talks about how wonderful Uncle Ben is, but beyond their words, something is definitely off-kilter.
Of course, what we’re really questioning in this chapter is our perception of God, and how that affects everything in our lives. We see that “any God who is nervous, defensive, or angry in the face of questions is a false god.” ”We mus resist, in word and deed, this God (Nobodaddy) who is no God at all.”
From questioning God, we move to questioning religion. We gain information from a variety of sources, including REM, C.S. Lewis, Michael Scott, and the children of South Park. Chapter two helps us understand that “when religion won’t tolerate questions, objections, or differences of opinion and all it can do is threaten excommunication, violence, and hellfire, it has an unfortunate habit of producing some of the most hateful people to ever walk the earth.”
Chapter three questions our offendedness.
Thomas Aquinas, Fyodor Dostoevsky, and Stephen Colbert are some of the voices adding to this section.
I remember “back in the day” as they say, how we would frequently use verses from I Corinthians 8, and Romans 14 “against” each other. “You shouldn’t do that, because that offends me!” Talk about a misuse of scripture. Of course, we’d give a passing glance to the passages telling us NOT to be easily offended. But the focus was on controlling the behavior of others. ”If you’re more opposed, for instance, to what we take to be ‘bad language’ and nude scenes and films about gay people than we are to people being blown up, starved to death, deprived of life-saving medicine, or tortured, our offendedness is out of whack. We have yet to understand the nature of real perversion.”
Questioning our passions in chapter 4, there’s talk of wasting our emotions, and how our affections can become “merely theoretical.” We look at what real perversion is, and how most of us engage in it. There’s a nice section on “Antichrist Television Blues,” that tackles “Christian” TV, and “the bad news that sells itself as the good news of escaping the weakness of the failure of your fellow humans by believing the right things and grabbing your copy of hell insurance.” And we get some advise on how to “discern the difference between the voice in my head and the voice of God.”
Chico Marx helps kick off “Questioning Media” in chapter 5. The author speaks of “manufactured realities,” and how, “fundamentally, you control the media.” Very interesting.
The sixth chapter has up questioning language. ”Words fail to do justice to the irreducible complexity of whatever it is we think we’re talking about.” ”There’s nothing that you can say that will mean the same thing once it’s repeated.”
Close on the heals of Questioning Language, is Questioning Interpretations. ”I want to break through the mind-forged manacles that render us incapable of seeing truthfully for fear we might let in the wrong information.” If someone can’t admit that everything(?) they see, read, hear, etc. is automatically interpreted by them, there’s not much chance of having a real, fruitful conversation. ”Jesus often refused what was in his time the reigning interpretation of scripture.”
Chapter 8: Questioning History. I’m amazed at how much our history was “sanitized” and “Americanized” when I went to school. I’ve heard it said that history is written by the winners. That, itself, helps explain much of the perspective in the Old Testament. In this chapter we read about, among other things, “Crimes against humanity undertaken in the name of Christ and Manifest Destiny.” It truly is overwhelming “to try to want to know what I don’t want to know,” rather than being “blissfully ignorant.” This, of course, isn’t just true of Christians. It’s true of the “Islamic, Buddhist, Native American, African or Confucian.”
As we, in chapter 9, question governments we discuss faith, violence, civil disobedience, infinite justice, self-justification, war, bloodshed, illegals, enemy combatants, and power structures. Jesus, Leonard Cohen, Ziggy Marley, Ghandhi, Tolstoy, MLK, and U2 help us open our eyes to the realities of our “allegiance.” I really like the quote, “Iraqi Christians… publicly pray that American Christians might consider more deeply their understanding of the body of Christ.”
Finally, we question the future. We look at patriotism, Shakespeare, “No Country for Old Men,” Bono, and (obligatorily) the Biblical book of Revelation.
We come full-circle and again consider the one referred to early in the book as “Nobodaddy.” ”The false god who authorized and underwrites environmental devastation, antipersonnel weapons, and cutthroat economies.
“The Sacredness of Questioning Everything” is packed solid, cover to cover, with valid and, dare I say, vital information. There’s a lot to think about here. Not in a scratch-your-head, stare-into-space, let me figure this out kind of way that a book by, oh… say Peter Rollins has. (A comparison like that is really an “apples to oranges” kind of thing anyway.) David Dark’s work here is more of a “stare-into-your-own-heart” thing. This book will help put you on a track deep into your own soul.
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- People sometimes try to make the Bible seem like a book full of easy answers, but it isn’t. It’s a bunch of voices from the past that ask us a lot of questions.
- What the pundits call wishy-washiness, the Bible calls repentance.
- We’re mad to think we’ve got hold of truth like nobody else or that we want it more or that our relationship to the Almighty trumps everyone else’s.
- Proclaiming the kingdom of God does not include shouting down anyone who finds your proclamation unconvincing.
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- When we think of a person primarily as a problem… we’re reducing them to the tiny sphere of our stunted attention span. There’s always more to a person than we know.”
- Of absolute truth, none of us are knowers. And we often aren’t especially good with the truth we do know.
- God is not made angry and insecure by an archaeological dig, a scientific discovery, an ancient manuscript, or a good film about homosexual cowboys.
- To label entire populations — or even sections of the globe — as “enemy” is bad theology, and no government that does so can claim to be operating in any mindful way “under” God.
- Your eschatology is what you’re waiting for and where you’re headed or think you’re headed. It cuts to the heart of politics, your religion, your sense of what matters.
- The word of the living God is never less than an ethical summons, a call to take care, to gather up and strengthen the life that remains, to reorder, redeem and remember.
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What We Talk About When We Talk About God April 10, 2013
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“There’s something in the air, we’re in the midst of a massive rethink. A moment in history is in the making. An entire mode of understanding and talking about God [is] dying as something new is being birthed.”
- Rob Bell
“This is a book by Rob Bell.”
That’s probably all I really need to say. (But I’ll go on.)
By now, everyone who actually reads books about Christianity and/or Spirituality has heard of Rob Bell.
Many who don’t read such books have still heard of Rob Bell.
For the most part, people either really, really like his work, or they think he’s a heretic.
They think of him as a prophet, or a demon.
In case you don’t already know,
This particular book is my favorite of Rob’s since the potentially life-changing “Velvet Elvis.” Mr. Bell is one of the handful of authors that have forever changed my life.
In this new work, Rob incorporates bits and pieces from some of his other works (both written and video). That makes this book a great read for those who have not read his previous writings. It can be a quick read, or a very slow one. As someone else has said, Rob’s writings are as simple or as deep as you want them to be.
“With,” “Ahead,” “Open,” and “For” are just some of the chapter titles.
Mr. Bell has us look at our language. At how it both helps and hinders us. We see very easily that, even within Christianity, people can be using the same word, “God,” and be talking about radically different things. (We also saw this on Jeff Chu’s cross-country journeys in “Does Jesus Really Love Me“.). Of course, how we think about our God directly affects everything else in our lives, not the least of which is the way we deal with and treat others and our environment.
The chapter “Open” is filled with scientific musings. There’s talk of the universe, the big-bang, neutron stars, the elasticity of time, matter, energy, atoms, sub-atomic particles, bosons, leptons, quarks and quantum theory (which “is responsible for everything from X-rays and MRI machines, to fiber optics and transistors). We consider that “the line between matter and spirit may not be a line at all.”
As is often the case, talking about what it is we talk about when we talk about God leads to looking at “the church,” and the Bible. Here we get more of a Rob Bell standard I so much enjoy: Looking at scripture in the cultural and historical context in which it was written. We examine “the arc, the story” of this wonderful library of holy writ. We begin to understand how “radically progressive” the books of the Bible were; that they were “ahead of their time.” Unfortunately, “it’s possible to take something that was a step forward at one point and still be clinging to it later on in the story, to the point where it becomes a step backward.”
“What We Talk About When We Talk About God” moves us, drawing us to (and into) the very Divine that we’re talking about.
We look at a God that is with us, for us, and calling us ahead.
What are the consequences of our talk of God?
What does it mean in the real flesh-and-blood world we live in?
How does my “faith” interact with others and with all of creation?
These and other issues are wonderfully explored within the pages of this very thought-provoking book.
At the end, after the “Acknowledgements” and the rest of the “End Notes,” Rob Bell does something that is just so,
so Rob Bell that when I told my wife, we both laughed out loud.
When you’re reading a Bell book, never stop at “The End.”
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- First, I’m a Christian, and so Jesus is how I understand God.
- How you believe and what you believe are two different things.
- What I experienced, over a long period of time, was a gradual awakening to new perspectives on God — specifically, the God Jesus talked about. [Yeah. Me, too. - df]
- We are waking up in new ways to the God who’s been here the whole time.
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- Words and images point us to God; they help us understand the divine, but they are not God.
- Imagine that — religious people quoting the Bible to defend actions that were the exact opposite of the intent and purpose of those very same scriptures. [e.g. "an eye for an eye."]
- Fundamentalism shouldn’t surprise us. Certainty is easier, faster, [and] awesome for fundraising.
- Choosing to trust that this life matters and we’re all connected and this is all headed somewhere has made my life way, way better.
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- Science does an excellent job of telling me why I don’t have a tail, but it can’t explain why I find that interesting.
- When we talk about God, we often find ourselves in the middle of one paradox after another.
- What we say about God always rests within the larger reality of what we can’t say.
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- Like a mirror, God appears to be more and more a reflection of whoever it is that happens to be talking about God at the moment.
- Love and care and compassion shown to others is love for [God].
- It’s one thing to stand there in a lab coat with a clipboard, recording data about lips. It’s another thing to be kissed.
- the ruach of God.
- the reverence humming in us.
- the entire ball of God wax
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Here’s the video promo.
Does Jesus Really Love Me? March 19, 2013
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This book is an incredible achievement.
It may be Jeff’s pilgrimage, but the stories come from many. At this time in history, this book is über-relevant, and much needed.
In his rather brave journeys, Jeff Chu has talked with/interviewed people across the nation, from various walks of life, with vastly, vastly differing opinions on the subjects of Christian faith and sexual orientation. From Justin Lee (Gay Christian Network), to Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church), to everyday people who are just trying to figure out life.
His pilgrimage was also to help him understand how people can read the same Bible, and come to such dramatically different conclusions.
Mr. Chu not only shares his story and the stories of others, but he occasionally ”steps aside” and just lets people, including John Smid and Ted Haggard, tell their own stories.
Some stories are uplifting. Some are heartbreaking. Some are damn maddening.
One of the most unusual things for me was Jeff describing the people of WBC as friendly and warm. Jeff actually went on a protest with them!
Still, they would use words like “fag” and “whore” with the comfort and ease of saying “tall” or “brunet.”
Sounds like they have some major cognitive dissonance going on. But we also see that, except for their trademark acts of extremism, their beliefs are quite similar to most fundamentalist churches.
Of course, there are stories of being rejected by family and friends. Of being designated as hell-bound abominations by those who should be the ones most loving and supportive. (How anyone can think that that kind of religiously-induced hatred has anything whatsoever to do with God is beyond me.)
There’s discussion of so-called “ex-gay” organizations. We look at the difference between “hate-based” and “fear-based” anti-gay sentiments.
We learn, too, that in Nashville Tennessee (the “Protestant Vatican”), “You can’t do anything without involving the church.”
We look at mixed-orientation marriages (Chapter 7 is awesome). And we discover the special challenges of being gay in an African-American church.
This book isn’t just for straight Christians to understand those of other orientations. It’s for all of us to understand ourselves. It is also (and I have found this essential) for people of varying orientations to understand each other. Even though “christianists” have honed it to an art-form, being judgmental isn’t something on which they’ve cornered the market. I, as a so-called “spousosexual” think Jeff’s book has the potential for helping all of us to better understand the “other.” Just because people may share the common bond of not being straight doesn’t mean they inherently share much else. Sometimes we talk about “both sides,” as if there are only two views. Mr. Chu’s chronicle helps us see otherwise.
Some very misinformed people see LGBT persons as inherently uninterested in the Bible, or issues of faith. Not true. Some are, and some are not. I don’t believe that institutional religion is usually a good thing. So it bothers me, somewhat, that people struggle so hard to be accepted by organizations that I don’t think should exist in the first place.
Still, I understand.
Tradition and religious structure are very important to some.
Wanting love and acceptance is universal.
If I have one disagreement with the author, it’s that America is a Christian nation. I know many people think it is. Many want it to be one. I, as a “Jesus lover,” do not. I get his point, though, when he states that “Christianequse civil religion prevails in America.”
So, “Does Jesus Really Love Me?” To what conclusions did this pilgrimage lead?
Well, I have to say Jeff through me a curve. I really didn’t see some of his comments coming. I’ll just say that I smiled alot during the final chapter.
I had the honor of reading and reviewing this book before it’s release.
Mega-thanks to HarperCollins AND to Jeff Chu.
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- This issue is about sons and daughters, friends and lovers, our neighbors, ourselves. It is also about our freedom, our faith, perhaps our salvation.
- I doubt. A lot. And yet I can’t not believe in God.
- Christian maturity is partly about living in the tension of not knowing, and it’s okay not to be sure.
- [Here's one from Andrae Gonzalo that many of us can identify with.] I got saved every night before I went to bed.
- Nearly every relationship I had in the church community virtually stopped overnight. It was like I ceased to exist. [John Hauenstein, on coming out to his church "family."]
- The term Christian means radically different things to different people.
- [Important!] While the anger among those who have suffered because of organizations such as Exodus makes sense, to channel it as they [often] do… helps nothing, heals nothing, and draws nobody closer to God.
- Humans are expert box builders. It’s what we do to make sense of the world.
- Christian leaders have a responsibility to do image management and damage control, and that leads them to a natural tendency toward Phariseeism. [Ted Haggard]
- I stopped praying, “God make me straight,” and I started praying, “God, show me what you want me to do.” [Justin Lee]
- …Those moments…when the light is so pure, so clear. It’s as if you’d never seen the world with these eyes before, and once you do, nothing can be the same.
- I run into people all the time who say, “The Bible Says…” They never say “…as it has been translated and interpreted.” There’s no hermeneutical awareness, and you shouldn’t be able to get away with that. We are all interpreting.” [Mark Tidd]
- I searched dozens of congregations in a host of denominations. What I never found was _________. (You’ll have to Buy The Book to finish that quote.)
- At the highest level, I want to live a life that pleases God.
I must say, I’m not fond of the title. Yes, ultimately it’s an important question, but it’s too “Sunday school” for the complexity of Jeff’s work here. And the sub-title…
I just think this is a great book, and the title doesn’t come close to conveying that.
The Idolatry of God February 14, 2013
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- The Apocalypse isn’t Coming, It has Already Arrived. -
Thus the adventure begins.
They say that (especially for those of us who are “youth-challenged”) one of the best ways to help prevent the decline of mental capacities is to actively use the brain by learning new things.
Simply put: THINK. And think new thoughts.
In that context, a Rollins book is just what the doctor ordered. Reading ”The Idolatry of God” is spiritual LASIK. Here, however, the surgery is never finished. Even if we don’t see everything the way Peter does, the adjustment continues to change the very nature of our spiritual vision.
The sub-title to this book is “Breaking Our Addiction To Certainty and Satisfaction.” I think it could also have been sub-titled, “Insurrection: Part Deux.” A number of the ideas expounded upon here were initially raised in “Insurrection.” While each book stands on it’s own merit, thy make a lovely couple.
It may be hard for some to conceive as to how one can “idolize” God. Nevertheless, this book declares that’s predominantly just what “Christianity” has done.
“We have turned God into just another product to provide for our personal satisfaction. A cosmic vending machine that promises answers and an escape from eternal suffering.”
The truth is, no matter what our vision of God is, that vision is never God.
There are three sections to “The Idolatry Of God:”
The Old Creation, The New Creation, and The New Collective.
Early on, we read about how infants undergo two births. The second of these is where “the infant begins to identify as existing in separation from her surroundings and slowly begins to experience herself as an individual.”
This information becomes important in the discussion of our sense of separation, and in turn, our feelings of being incomplete.
I love how Peter finds truth wherever truth can be found. He references works like “Austin Powers,” “Mission Impossible III,” and “The Walking Dead.” In chapter one Mr. Rollins discusses a phrase made popular by Alfred Hitchcock: The “MacGuffin“. A MacGuffin can be anything, and the point is not what it is, but that it has some assigned value, and it is wanted and desired, even if what it is is not known. OK, that may not make much sense on it’s own, but within the pages of this book, it initiates some amazing thought processes.
This leads to a discussion of “Original Sin.”
Finally, after 58 years, I’ve read an approach to Original sin that makes sense. The church often says “sin simply means separation from God,” but then turns to endless discussions of “sins” instead of “sin.” The focus is on what is and isn’t a “sin.” This, of course, would vary from person to person, church to church, decade to decade. It all became an issue of what one could or couldn’t do, and still “remain” a Christian. I now find all of that laughably ridiculous, and simultaneously quite sad. The end result is a “sin management” system, and any meaningful concept of Original sin is lost.
Chapter two has a visual recreation of the standard line drawing used in many evangelical tracts. It’s the one with the stick figure on one side of a chasm, and GOD on the other. You’ll know it when you see it. We see why this entire approach to understanding our reality misses the point entirely. ”Instead of seeing Christ as the apocalyptic destruction of this whole approach…these diagrams obscure the truth by calling the Idol ‘God.’”
Chapter three reaps wisdom from the 23rd chapter of Matthew, and from “Miami Vice.” We expand on a concept introduced in “Insurrection:” I wear a mask that looks like me. We look at the masks we “are,” and the mythologies (political, cultural, religious) that create and feed our life stories. The church, in large part, does not confront these mythologies, but rather blesses them.
Chapter four brings us the “Zombie Apocalypse,” the “radical message of the cross,” and great insight into the Temple curtain being torn during the Crucifixion. I loved the revelation of “what’s behind the curtain.” This is good stuff!
One of my favorite parts was chapter 5, “Trash of the World.”
We explore how a Christian “identity” is actually the setting aside of all identities.
We look at divisions that were thought to be a “natural” part of the world during Paul’s life:
Religious identity (Jew/Gentile),
Political identity (slave/free), and
Biological identity (male/female).
We then look at how the “sword” Christ says he brings divides those who may, in fact, believe the same things, while bringing unity to those who’s beliefs may be markedly different. A person’s enemies are now those of their own tribe. The graphics in the book help clarify the new division of non-division.
Chapter Six covers material like “renewing of your mind,” “freedom from the obsessive drive for that which we (falsely) believe will make us complete,” “Christ as Fully God,” and more insights into the Crucifixion.
Chapters Seven through Nine.
We’re shown some new ways of being church. Ways of facing our addiction to certainty. Ways of interacting with the “other.” And, of great importance, seeing ourselves the way others see us.
There are some really good ideas here. These ideas are not just theory, but ones that have been put into practice by the author and/or people he knows.
I would participate in these practices, but I don’t know that I would initiate them. Whether or not you use these ideas, they can spur you on to come up with your own ideas. These certainly are some unique methods of encounter.
We also look at how, sadly, the existing “church” does not confront or challenge the Idolatry spoken of in these pages. Rather, the church reinforces the Idolatry. Actually, it thrives on it. The modern church would, to a great degree, not exist without it. Not in it’s current form.
(I like the title of Chapter Eight: ”Destroying Christianity and other Christian Acts.”)
Oh. Also in chapter 7, Peter critiques the “Confessional” scene in “Blue Like Jazz.” I understand him, and for the most part agree with his criticism. However, I still believe the realizations made through that type of process are powerful, and for many (most?) Christians, a necessary point at which to arrive before being able to move on. It’s like not being able to get from A to H without going through E. (And personally, I still love the movie. Not everyone will.)
I tell ya, one sure-fire way to know that a book, author, singer, poet, etc. has something the church probably needs to hear is if those who claim to speak for the church call it heresy. [Challenge power, and power pushes back.]
This book is no exception. Peter (like Rob, Brian, Anne, Spencer, Phyllis, and others) is, in my estimation, a modern day prophet. Not in some weird, supernatural concept of the word, but in a real-life, get-back-to-basics, kind of way.
A way that calls us out of the Babylon of Christianity, and back to the way of Christ.
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- What if Christ does not fill the empty cup we bring to him but rather smashes it to pieces, bringing freedom, not from our darkness and dissatisfaction, but freedom from our felt need to escape them?
- All our religious narratives are but ash before the all-consuming fire of divine mystery.
- [Holing on to the] Idolatrous form of faith, [you] will be tempted to embrace that huge industry dedicated to conferences, worship concerts, and traveling apologists.
- The Good News of Christianity: You can’t be fulfilled; you can’t be made whole; you can’t find satisfaction.
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- Instead of God being that which fills the gap at the core of our being, the God testified to in Christianity exposes the gap for what it is, obliterates it, and invites us to participate in an utterly different form of life, one that brings us beyond slavery to the Idol.
- [Paul] understood that the prohibition of the law does not cause one to renounce an object, but rather fuels a self-destructive drive for it.
- People tend to think that the Law and sin existed on opposite ends of a spectrum… they actually are intertwined and exist on the same side.
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- All the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves have a fictional quality.
- Religious leaders are actually lying, first and foremost, to themselves.
- We are all tempted to fall into the same trap as these religious teachers whom Jesus chastised.
- Love fulfills the law…by raising us into a different register where we live beyond the prohibition.
… while not everything is beneficial, everything is permissible.
[This revelation to me, long before reading this book, was a wonderful breakthrough. I am no longer obsessed with what things are "sins," and what are not. I now ask myself, "Is this the smart thing to do? Is this the best path to travel? Is this beneficial?" So the writing here, as so often seems to happen, confirmed a work already being accomplished within me.]
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- Original Sin and the Law are obliterated and the Idol they create dissolves into thin air.
- [This is very good.] More often than not, the reasons we reject another arise after the actual rejection.
- Christianity is not a singular, monolithic, unchanging belief system but a fluid tradition that is always interrogating itself.
- Love is the crazy, mad, and perhaps ridiculous gesture of saying yes to life.
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Another Conversation With Barry February 3, 2013
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[Following is a portion of a recent email I sent Barry McGuire, and
portions of his reply. My few interactions with him have been
I was part of the “Jesus People” crowd back in the 70′s and 80′s.
Over the last 5 to 10 years, I’ve become a very different person, spiritually.
My wife and I left “institutional religion” about 5 years ago. I was a co-Pastor, Elder, Worship leader, Sunday school teacher, ect., ect.
Now, when I look back, I can see, IMHO, how the Jesus movement seemed to eventually be co-opted by conservative, right-wing, Republican “christianity.” I’ve also noticed, as I never did then, that the “Christian” music industry, book industry, ect., also is pretty much controlled by the religious right. (I didn’t believe that the Christian left even existed.)
Anyway,now when I listen to some of the old songs by certain artists like yourself, I hear a more radical tone than I ever noticed back then.
I hear implications that we’re all connected. I hear concern for our planet, and actual love and relationship with those of other religions. All things I have come to believe in.
I’m at a very different place spiritually than I ever would have imagined even a decade ago. It’s a different place, but it’s the best and most honest place I’ve been in that regard.
Have you had any major shift in your spirituality since the Jesus People days? Were you just always more “left” (if I can use that term) than most of us realized?
Anyway, thanks for all the years of great entertaining and thought-provoking music.
Keep it up!
Well, good for you my friend. I recently received an email asking me if I was still walking WITH Jesus and I had to tell the enquirer, that “No, I no longer walked WITH Christ, I now actually walk IN Christ.” All the difference in the world.
I can tell by your email that you are sinking deep unto deep. Recently a pastor in So Cal expressed that he’d heard that I’d gone off the deep end. My response was, “Praise God, yes, I’m tired of the wading pool. It’s deep unto deep for me.”
Someone asked my wife recently what church we went to. Her response was, “You’ve asked the wrong question…
She told that person, “We are the church, you and I are the living stones in the Body of Christ.” She went onto say that we belong to the church of Two or More. Wherever two or more are gathered in His name, there He is in our midst.
We could spend hours talking, at least I know I could. It’s been a long journey, but for me I’ve discovered that fundamental Christianity just doesn’t work. I’ve written a few blogs you might want to read on my personal www.barrymcguire.com website although it’s been a long time since I’ve read them myself, and I know my outlook on reality has changed since then. What we believe to be true today, with additional information, will change what we believe to be true tomorrow.
Just sink into your heart my friend, all the answers live there and ultimately it’s Christ WITHIN us that will prevail.
Blessings on you my friend, get stubborn in your surrender to reality,
[Bold and underscores added my me. - df]
Some other quotes from Mr. McGuire:
We have never known such peace, such assurance, we have never been filled with such expectancy, such hope, such knowing, that Christ IS living WITHIN every heart.
My world view changes from day to day. The truth of it is, we can know 99% about all there is to know, but the 1% we don’t know will totally change our understanding of the 99% that we did know……”His mercies are new every morning as our Spirit is renewed daily.” I’m not the same person today that I was yesterday, and I’ll not be the same person tomorrow that I am today.
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we’re here we should dance.
Ghandi had the right idea. He was assassinated. Anwar Sadat was a man of peace. He was assassinated. Martin Luther King spoke of the brotherhood of man. He was assassinated. John Kennedy wanted to get us out of Vietnam. He was assassinated. Jesus Christ gave us a message of forgiveness and love. He was assassinated. Socrates apparently did all he could to get people to think for themselves and not let others tell them what to do. He was assassinated. That’s why I take an a-political stand in this world I find myself living in.
How dare I judge ANYONE that Christ gave His life to forgive! I don’t care if they’re gay [or] straight.
Well, I don’t know about Christ’s soon physical returning. People have been thinking He’s going to be coming back any minute for the last two thousand years. For me, and Mari, He’s already come back!
Our constant goal is to stay focused on this present moment, and to pour one hundred percent of our energy and attention into the demands and requirements of each moment we experience.